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Responding to Listener Feedback That Took Us by Surprise

March 19, 2025 • Karen Koehler and Mo Hamoudi • Season 5 • Episode 9

Episode 9: Responding to Listener Feedback That Took Us by Surprise

Karen Koehler and Mo Hamoudi planned to revisit their worst courtroom arguments, but listener feedback completely changed the conversation. Some reactions were protective, some were critical, and all were thought-provoking.

Was it a power move? Was Mo being shut down? Karen and Mo unpack the unexpected responses, challenge assumptions, and dive into the deeper dynamics of presence, persuasion, and perception. From personal reflections to the realities of being a trial lawyer, this episode is an unfiltered look at power, confidence, and the ways we take up space.

📌 Timestamps:

00:00 – Intro & Why Listener Feedback Matters
04:27 – Young Muhammad & Navigating Personal Space
12:27 – Gender, Power & Perception in the Courtroom
20:56 – How Karen Changed the Office Culture
30:32 – "You’re Not Here to Make Friends" – A Defining Career Moment
34:35 – Wrapping Up & What’s Next for the Podcast

💬 What do you think? Were you surprised by this feedback? Do you agree or disagree? Let us know in the comments.

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